In Association with the Libertarian International

Release Date: Wednesday 2nd June 2010
Release Time: Immediate

Contact Details:
Dr Sean Gabb, 07956 472 199, sean@libertarian.co.uk

For other contact and link details, see the foot of this message
Release url: http://www.libertarian.co.uk/news/nr081.htm


The Libertarian Alliance, the radical free market and civil liberties institute, today calls for the relegalisation of civilian gun ownership in the United Kingdom as the only way for ordinary people to protect themselves against gun massacres. [This news release is prompted by the killings of at least five people on the 2nd June 2010 in and around the Cumberland town of Whitehaven.]

Speaking today in London, Dr Sean Gabb, Director of the Libertarian Alliance, comments:

“This outrage will certainly bring calls from the police and other victim disarmament advocacy groups for further gun control. However, bearing in mind that civilian ownership of handguns was outlawed in the two Firearms Acts of 1997, we fail to see, unless the murder weapon was a shotgun, what there is left to be outlawed.

“The Libertarian Alliance notes that these shootings would have been extremely difficult in a country where the people were allowed to arm themselves. We understand that the killer, Derrick Bird, was able to drive in perfect safety around Whitehaven, shooting people at random. None of his victims was in any position to return fire. Only when armed police could eventually be brought in did he feel it necessary to run away.

“In the United States, at least one campus shooting was brought to a premature end by armed civilians. The same is true in Israel, where many members of the public go about armed. Only in a country like England, where the people have been systematically disarmed, can a killer go about like a fox among chickens.

“The Libertarian Alliance believes that all the Firearms Acts from 1920 onwards should be repealed. The largely ineffective laws of 1870 and 1902 should also be repealed. It should once again be possible for adults to walk into a gun shop and, without showing any permit or proof of identity, buy as many guns and as much ammunition as they can afford. They should also be able to use lethal force, at home and in public, for the defence of life, liberty and property.

“Only then will ordinary people be safe from evil men like Derrick Bird.”


Note(s) to Editors

Dr Sean Gabb is the Director of the Libertarian Alliance. His book, Cultural Revolution, Culture War: How Conservatives Lost England, and How to Get It Back, may be downloaded for free from http://tinyurl.com/34e2o3. It may also be bought. His other books are available from Hampden Press at http://www.hampdenpress.co.uk.He can be contacted for further comment on 07956 472 199 or by email at sean@libertarian.co.uk

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About IanPJ

Ian Parker-Joseph, former Leader of the Libertarian Party UK, who currently heads PDPS Internet Hosting and the Personal Deed Poll Services company, has been an IT industry professional for over 20 years, providing Business Consulting, Programme and Project Management, specialising in the recovery of Projects that have failed in a process driven world. Ian’s experience is not limited to the UK, and he has successfully delivered projects in the Middle East, Africa, US, Russia, Poland, France and Germany. Working within different cultures, Ian has occupied high profile roles within multi-nationals such as Nortel and Cable & Wireless. These experiences have given Ian an excellent insight into world events, and the way that they can shape our own national future. His extensive overseas experiences have made him all too aware of how the UK interacts with its near neighbours, its place in the Commonwealth, and how our nation fits into the wider world. He is determined to rebuild many of the friendships and commercial relationships with other nations that have been sadly neglected over the years, and would like to see greater energy and food security in these countries, for the benefit of all. Ian is a vocal advocate of small government, individual freedom, low taxation and a minimum of regulation. Ian believes deeply and passionately in freedom and independence in all areas of life, and is now bringing his professional experiences to bear in the world of politics.
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  1. Freewoman of England says:

    its true If we all had guns Derrick Bird wouldn’t have been able to kill 12 people and maim 25, Someone would have shot him before it escalated.
    People have died needlessly because we are all unarmed, Maybe one person would have died but the rest no The person who got shot first would have been around people and they would have made sure that Derrick couldn’t have got further. The same goes for the Hungerford massacre in 1987 and Dunblane in 1992. If this were the Victorian era of Sherlock Holmes someone in Cumbria would have shot out his tyres and then when he stepped out of the car would have shot him in the legs and disarmed the person. I wouldn’t even rule out shooting him in the shoulder for his gun arm.

    It is another nail in the coffin that this massacre has occurred shortly before the Lisbon treaty is re ratified. And we all know what that states don’t we? That citizens will be shot dead if there is an emergency state if we don’t do what we’re told to do.

    They wouldn’t dare if we were all armed.

  2. Freewoman of England says:

    the Lisbon Treaty – the one we CAN’T leave – allows for the death penalty for civil disobedience in a “national emergency”

  3. Freewoman of England says:


    You see what I mean The 80 yr old survived, it could have been murder for bith him and his wife.

  4. Wormit Steve says:

    An individual, for whatever irrational reason, took lives. This individual could have done this with his bare hands, a knife, a hammer or other implement or tool.

    I feel for those that will suffer the actions of this individual. But I also realise that this occurred as a result of an individual – not a group, not all citizens of the United Kingdom… one individual. He will not stand trial, he cannot face his victims or the families of those who’s lives were taken. During the event his life was also taken.

    If the laws are changed to further remove what little gun ownership that is left for citizens then it is done by holding everyone accountable for the actions of one. If one person drives a car into a crowd do all suffer the consequences? What lesson(s) are learned for each individual if this is the case?

    I am an adult, subject to the consequences of my actions – good and bad. I do not ask my loved ones, neighbours or complete strangers to suffer for my wrongs.

  5. HotScot says:

    This is the single objection I have of the Libertarian organisation. Hand guns are for one thing and one thing alone, killing human beings. I agree the people that want guns will get them, it is also true that if everyone else has guns they are probably going to go for something more substantial than a .22 or 12 bore, a semi or fully automatic perhaps, just in case some publicly minded citizen tries to “shoot out his tyres” and then ” shoot him in the legs”. Freewoman really has been watching too many American cop shows, the average hand gun owner could barely hit a barn door far less a moving vehicle never mind an individual tyre; and whilst ‘disabling’ a mentally deranged man by attempting to shoot him in the legs whilst this capable shot is taking careful aim at you with a shotgun/rifle may seem a good idea, I would urge you never to try it. A .22 rifle can be used accurately up to about 150 Metres, a 9 mm Beretta Pistol has an effective range of about 50 Metres however you would have to be a well trained shot to use it accurately at that distance.

    Quite how Dunblane could have been stopped by the public carrying weapons is beyond me, do you think the teachers would have started shooting whilst surrounded by children? The Hungerford gunman Michael Ryan was armed with a semi automatic M1 carbine with an effective combat range of some 270M, a Type 56 assault rifle (Chinese Kalashnikov AK-47) with a range similar to the M1 but with a firing rate of 600-650 rounds per minute; the standard 30 round magazine will discharge in approximately half a second. And you want to shoot an expert gunman like Ryan in the legs or go for a shoulder shot!

    These people will get guns no matter what we do, even if I was armed I would head for the hills rather than take them on in a shootout. Even the Police, quite rightly, won’t take them on unless they are certain they can kill an armed man with no risk to themselves.

    Hand guns are rightly banned from Britain, I have no objection to them being used in a club as long as they are kept on premises. Rifles are genuine cases of need, farmers need access to them but other than for true sporting use, organised deer hunting, grouse shooting and clay pigeon shooting, there is no real need for the rest of the population to have shotguns or rifles. If anyone promotes the case of defence of the home in the event of a burglary, by the time you have unlocked the case required toi keep the gun safe from theft, then loaded it, how easy do you think it would be to weild a full length weapon in a 3 bedroomed semi; you;re more likely to shoot one of the kids sleeping in an upstairs room.

    • Ian Robst says:

      Most peopel who are against guns head for the hills while freedom lovers will fight for what is right and the rights of other’s! Training is of course paramont if a man/woman wants to own a gun/rifle. It’s a question of are we heading into a sunny future or a world of even greater hurt those with true sight will answer that one with hard fore thought. I’m ex army and I do say this without any stammer we are heading for a world of hurt! People who wish to kill will do so with or without a gun! A gun just makes it more efficient. As such I would love to own a gun/revolver and I would wish that for my wife and children as well. There will always be evil thinkers no matter what and the nanny Social state can’t help you when you need to be Jonny on the spot? Hand’s up who has been in a situation that could have been their last night on earth? I have had such a case for which I came out on top but not without much thinking later…as shock slowly numbed my brain. Facing 4 people then another 4 making it 8 maybe 10 people in a gang that wants blood is not joke. But being that I’m fit and 6.1 inches at 19 stone gave me a helping hand as it truned out I let them know that the first 3 would be doomed the rest would have may be kicked my head in who knows I thank God that didn’t happen and that they seen the light because I would have had to may be kill the first 3 with my bear hands’ and yes I can do that but I’m a nice guy who loves to laugh and joke but I’m trained and many are not. I would love to see the world in harmony but that is not happing any time soon I love mankind and as such I wish for a great and sunny future but I know different. Social collapse is looking more evident as we head down the future road. Did I here you say never here I beg to differ we are now in a depression and we are heading futher into a possible World War Three. With 5 carrier groups off the coast of Iran July 2010 ready to go into Iran how do you think it will hit us in the U.K? Allow me to explain. From the Med, the The Gulf of Arabia including Suez no Oil, I say again no Oil will come our way what then? The U.K. has enough Oil to last may be 4 weeks. After which if nothing is done about it food wont reach the super markets do you see where I’m going. That’s right after no food on the shelves something starts to happen. People will start to eat each other as no fule means no deliveries do you think that is a story for bed time no becuase that is what will happen I’ve studied history not the history you get in school real history that they try to hide from you. So do we need gun’s I would like to say {we don’t need gun’s} but I know in my heart that when all is said and done {“It’s better to have one and not need it…than to need one and not have one”} self defence comes in many forms I know I’ve done a lot of them. But we do have a right under God to seek self protection and you can’t go into a gun fight with kung fu chops you may not be that close. Live long love those who love you and do good works be well my friend’s sincerely Sinper Joe.

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